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I've always had a hard time talking to people, about what I really feel. I find it hard to organize my thoughts, I'm easily distracted, I wander off on tangents, and if I'm interrupted, I completely forget what I'm talking about. It's hard. Add to that the fear, the fear of offending someone, the fear of rejection, the fear of conflict, it's all just hard and usually something I avoid.
When I was kid I was always told, don't feel like that. That's what I remember most about growing up, don't feel like that, because what I felt was wrong apparently. I didn't fit into my family, I felt too much, said too much, I was too much generally. So many don'ts.
And now I'm sixty-two and I feel less and less that I am too much. I have ADHD. I do feel things strongly, I am sensitive, I have a hard time with criticism, I am terrified of rejection, and I have very strong feelings about right and wrong and underdogs. Being a nurse thickened my skin, taught me to not take everything personally, turned me into an excellent advocate for my patients, and taught me social skills (like listening) that I so desperately needed to learn.
I have ADHD and knowing that helps but I still have an awful time expressing myself verballing. It takes time for me to organize my thoughts. I get distracted and overwhelmed during difficult conversations. I cry, a lot, so I avoid difficult conversations, conversations that need to be had. I helps to know this about myself, to know that I need to write things out, to get them out of my head, to organize them.
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My husband is a good man, but he is also an angry man. He too has a hard time talking about things and I'm sure he's been told many things over the course of his lifetime that have shaped how he feels about himself and his place in the world. But, we need to figure out how to talk to each other, we need to feel safe with each other. I can't speak to him that way he speaks to me, he dominates conversations, there is a power imbalance and I end up frustrated; often I just shut down and walk away. When he believes he is right, he can't hear another side, can't put himself in the shoes of another, can't be wrong. But things often look so differently if you just turn around and look at things from a different direction.
On the weekend he was rude to my daughter when she woke up. He said good morning but she wasn't paying attention and didn't hear him or respond, so then he said good afternoon to her and she was offended. It was 9:30 in the morning, not late, and she felt like she was being criticized for sleeping later on her day off. She also has MS and is so fucking tired all the time that it makes life hard for her. He told me it was a joke, but if you're the only one who thinks it's funny, it's not a joke. When I brought it up later he repeated that it was just a joke and when I mentioned that she feels very sensitive about her MS fatigue he brought up his uncle who had MS, so he knows about MS. Neither of us "knows" about MS because we have not lived with MS. Just like people don't know what it's like to raise a disabled child, unless they have raised a disabled a child. He couldn't accept that somebody saw things differently than he did, couldn't put himself in another's shoes. I gave up. I give up a lot lately and just turn away and put another brick in the wall.
He'll be upset by this post, airing our dirty laundry, but I need to get this off my chest. Life is hard and I want it to get better.
I feel for you. I also say bravo for looking at how things are and wanting to address the issues. Men in general seem to have problems with directness. At least that is my observation. They will tend to go to the authority mode. Mark has high anxiety, which means he doesn't listen well, he interrupts and talks over me. I tell him when he does and he's sorry, but he can't seem to not do it! It's easier said than done, but it sure would help if your husband was willing to explore his anger. It sure helped me. You can email me anytime you feel the need to talk about life. I'm a good listener.
ReplyDeleteI was angry for a lot of my life but I worked through a lot of things and let go of a lot of things and my anger is no longer my go to when things are tough. And thank you Sandra, I may just take you up on that offer.
DeleteI know from my own experience that couples counselling can help to improve communication styles and "rules of engagement." If it eases the problem, then it's worth it.
ReplyDeleteI know, it's just hard to fit it in with a five year old but becoming increasingly necessary.
DeleteYou know we're all off the scale one way or another. Whatever the explanations, early childhood trauma, addiction in the family, mental and other health issues, emotional blackmail, abuse and so on. Look around you and tell me how many healthy, sane and well balanced people you think there are.
ReplyDeleteThere are very few sane, well balanced people in the world and when I meet one, it's like finding a unicorn. I'm definitely no unicorn, more of a donkey.
DeleteAfter loosing 2 jobs due to Covid my husband made the unilateral decision to retire. He felt it was his decision not ours. I was so angry at that man that I had a hard time being civil to him. It lasted several months. But the hardest thing I have to do is adjusting to being home together all the time. We been married for 45 years and together longer than that and it seems I have to adjust more than he feels he should. And his way is the best and only way. So my heart feels for you.
ReplyDeleteThat has to be so hard, it's like starting over.
DeleteI understand the difficulty expressing yourself. It's even harder when we don't think we'll get the response we're seeking—reassurance, understanding, whatever it is that we're hungry for in that moment. It is easy to shut down, walk away, it's a self protective instinct. I think so many of us here first turned to writing because it was a way to understand ourselves and what we were feeling. I sometimes can't make any sense of the tangle of emotions inside me until I write it down. I understand why your daughter was hurt, and I also know many good men who, like your husband, are convinced of what they know and can't in the moment turn around and look in another direction, see how the view changes. Maybe later, when things are calm, you can explain to him what he was missing. That sometimes gets through. But not always. Men are so different from we ADHD women who were never diagnosed. But all will be well, even if all is not perfect. And your daughter has you, who can reassure her she did nothing amiss. Also, what extraordinary photographs accompany this post. Looking in different directions, completely different light and views. Thank you for sharing your heart.
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you for sharing your heart as well Rosemarie. I have always had a hard time expressing my thought and feelings, except in writing, and it's even worse when I'm emotional. So I write.
DeleteQuite honestly I do not think I could say what I'm thinking better than Rosemarie did although I will add that you deserve a partner who will be open to better communication and if that requires learning those skills, then so be it. I truly hope he will accept going to counseling either with or without you and if he won't, then you go by yourself. It cannot hurt.
ReplyDeleteThank you Mary.
DeleteThis is true, Pixie. It absolutely will not hurt to go by yourself.
DeleteI hear your feelings in both your writing and in your extraordinary photographs and in your humor and hard-won insights. Although our life situations are different, I relate to your lifelong struggles. Sending love.
ReplyDeleteLifelong struggles is so right. Take care Amanda.
DeleteAfter nearly 50 years together my husband will now, sometimes, admit he was wrong in the way he approached or reacted to something. Not often but it's something.
ReplyDeleteDon't give up and don't keep putting those bricks in the wall - they are too hard to remove.
It's strange because I am often wrong and I'm okay with that, live and learn right?
DeleteGood communication can be so difficult - even with our nearest and dearest. If only there were simple, easy things we could all do to improve the quality of that communication and feel more connected, less alone.
ReplyDeleteIf only.
DeleteIt feels risky to be completely honest; like you, I get emotional and have to rehearse any difficult conversations. Therapists often have strategies for both people about how to deal with partners who have different styles and personalities. I understand about the lack of time for appointments though. As good a guy as John is, he's uncomfortable around big emotions and hasn't learned the basics about just giving a comforting hug and a listening ear. I'm trying to train him (LOL) but at 70, will that be a successful endeavor?
ReplyDeleteA lot of men seem to be uncomfortable with big emotions sadly.
DeleteThat's a brave post. I expect most bloggers who I know have better written skills than verbal skills, although from the bloggers I've met, they have good verbal skills, so I've rather shot my statement in the foot. I don't consider my verbal skills are good, but then I think about conversations I have with people, and maybe my skills are better than I think. I don't know.
ReplyDeletePartners become so used to each other, they at times don't consider the impact of their words. I've been on the receiving end of that, but apparently as I was told, I did the same.
I see the playful love and overt affection between my two tenants, and I am envious that I never had such an openly loving and affectionate relationship. I must add that we both loved each other, but....
One day I will speak ill of the dead and write about what our relationship was like for me. I am not quite ready yet, but after writing yesterday's post about my neighbour's friend's relationship with her husband, I feel it is a tale that needs to be told.
You don't have to speak ill of the dead, you can be gently honest. Take care Andrew.
DeleteAndrew suggested that I come over here to read your blog post. It made me cry to recognise so much of me in your description.
ReplyDeleteYou are not alone.
Thank you.
DeleteWhen people are rude and then say it was "just a joke" - well it absolutely wasn't a joke. It's pretty agressive to my mind. Maybe your husband would agree to counselling, even if it is only on his own. I'm sure it would be difficult for him to open up as most men seem to be "oh there's nothing wrong", whether it be about their mental or physical health. I hope you can talk this out later as he is obviously a good man and you are very definitely a good woman, but both under a lot of pressure!
ReplyDeleteIf you have to tell people it was a joke, it's not a joke, agreed. It's hard to look at yourself though.
DeletePixie, as I read your post, I realized that you and I are a lot alike in many ways. I don't have ADHD, but I am overly sensitive, fearful of rejection, and I hate confrontation. I also tend to keep my thoughts to myself when it involves anything that will upset anyone. This isn't always a good way to be for me as things brew and stew. That's one of the reasons I started to blog years ago. I enjoy reading your blog posts because they are real and well written. Your photos are breathtaking.
ReplyDeleteI think we're a lot alike too Michael. Often when I read your blog, it feels so familiar.
DeleteWriting things out is an excellent way to organize and communicate thoughts. Hopefully your husband will recognize that was your intention. It seems a small thing for him to apologize to your daughter -- regardless of how he meant his remark, the fact is she was offended and he could easily say, "I'm sorry I offended you. It certainly wasn't meant that way." That's all it takes.
ReplyDeleteToo true Steve.
DeleteI, too, am an overly emphatic person and know that it can be emotionally exhausting. I think setting boundaries is the key to not letting it overwhelm you. But even with it's downsides, having a big heart is a gift - especially in your profession. You are a blessing to others. Mae sure you use that same compassion toward yourself.
ReplyDeleteI am learning to be kind to myself, finally after all these years. I'm also setting boundaries, but it's hard.
DeleteI have only recently found your blog and enjoy your writing and reflections very much.
ReplyDeleteMy husband (also a good and generally well-meaning man in many ways) - not her father- made virtually identical comments to my visiting, tired, adult (40+) daughter, even though she has talked to him about it several times. He absolutely does not recognize that his (purposeless - there are no demands on anyone, no obligations to do anything on any timeline) standards may not apply to everyone else and does not understand that she might take offence by his judgement. Her sleeping in on a day off affected absolutely no one, including him, and he knows that she is not at her best when she first gets up. She is a responsible, self-sufficient and reliable person. After this last encounter, I doubt she’ll visit us again, tho I’ll visit or travel with her.
I constantly walk on eggshells, and have also walked away from most confrontations and constructed the brick wall to protect myself…..
Hoping you can find a better way. Me too….
I walk on eggshells a lot of the time too and my husband is also my daughter's stepfather. He upset my daughter and then he gave everyone the silent treatment for the rest of the day. I wouldn't blame my daughter if she doesn't visit again.
DeleteAiring your "dirty laundry" -- i.e. talking about what is really going on in your life as opposed to keeping shtum about it -- not being the "strong, silent type" -- is one thing that makes your blog compelling. It's real; half of what you experience isn't kept invisible, and talking about these things helps people relate to you and feel they aren't alone in their own challenges. I understand your husband not wanting to be mentioned in your blog unless it's in glowing terms; I labour under similar constraints because we live in a place where everyone knows everyone else and my spouse doesn't want anyone knowing what he's up to; and especially when he's been a dink. "Nobody's business," he says. "How would you like it if I advertised what YOU said or did that *I* thought was wrong?" he asked me. I respect his feelings -- goodness, if he said to others some of things he says to me (which I think are misguided but is how he sees them), I'd feel unfairly maligned.
ReplyDeleteBut I have to respect my own perspective, too. I'm not going to be told what I can and can't talk about, silenced -- but I do try to keep our conflicts to myself when it comes to sharing things publicly. It may be the reason my closest friends say they don't read my blog: it isn't the whole truth, and they know it. None of it is lies, mind you, but I don't share everything. I'm not suggesting that's the right thing to do; it's what I've chosen to do publicly, that's all. My "Do unto others" approach.
Over the past few years I've practised keeping my thoughts to myself instead of reacting instantly. This is the opposite of what I always used to do, when I believed instant confrontation was best. I've avoided a lot of unnecessary bullshit this way; especially when I finally figured out my own motivations for speaking up, and the reasons for the ways I was responding. I don't have this down to an art yet, but even some of my anger I have learned to handle on my own instead of upsetting my spouse after the fact. Sometimes it's my own shit and I don't need to involve him, at least not until I've thought it through and examined my own part in it.
Like my dad (whose obit I posted today on my blog), I believe it's necessary to call a spade a spade. And at the same time: tact and restraint.
I try and don't always succeed. Am quick to lose my temper after years of frequent verbal abuse; I now have no patience and deal with it immediately, and maybe sometimes when something nasty really wasn't meant but because it had been so common in the past, it's how I took the words.
Counselling made a big difference at our house. Things aren't perfect; every conflict, and there are bound to be some aren't there?, makes me want OUT. It's like I expected life to be a bed of roses without thorns!
Anyway, la Pix, I ramble on, probably off topic, more about myself than you. Please forgive and carry on. I relate bigtime to some of the things you go through and the moment I see you've updated, I click over to see what's happening and what you think of it all.
This made me cry. We keep quiet to keep the peace. I am far from perfect, obviously, but I do want to be treated with respect, I want to be a partner and not a housekeep, which is how I feel most of the time. I have a lot of built up resentment from years of keeping quiet.
DeleteSending hugs to you Kate.
Sad to read about disrespect and subtle bullying. Picking on vulnerable and sick people is not a manly trait. Someone needs to grow up and learn how to love and cherish the family in his care.
ReplyDeleteIt is bullying but I'm sure he would be shocked to read that.
DeleteMy husband is like that. He can’t stand to be told he is wrong. I know he loves me, but hate the way he talks to me sometimes. We end up getting into big fights, then eventually cool down and make up. Married 41 years, almost divorced a few times,but couldn’t leave each other. I do love him. That’s why I stay. It is frustrating.
ReplyDeleteMy husband believes he knows best, it seems to run in his family because his mother and sister are the same. I try so hard but I'm tired. We can't talk, it's more of a lecture that I am required to listen to. Not exactly conducive to open communication.
DeleteYou are Entitled to your Feelings and to Feel however way you just do, so that was bad advice in your Childhood to tell you not to Feel that way. And is any Old Man not also an Angry one? *Winks* Women feel more Liberated in Old Age but I see that most Men feel very threatened and scared about Father Time catching up to them and diminishing them to how they remember being.
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